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Grateful Dead Live at Century II Convention Hall on 1972-11-17

Topics Live concert

Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Tennessee Jed, B.T. Wind, Birdsong, Jack Straw, Box of Rain, Don't Ease Me In, Beat It On Down The Line, Brown Eyed Women, Big River, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Around & Around, Casey Jones Cumberland Blues, El Paso, Uncle John's Band, He's Gone-> Truckin'-> The Other One, Brokedown Palace, Sugar Magnolia, Uncle John's Band, E: Johnny B. Goode

Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Century II Convention Hall
Location Wichita, KS

Source Soundboard
Lineage Master Soundboard Reel > Cassette > DAT > CR > EAC > WAV > SHN


Master Soundboard Reel > Cassette > DAT > CR > EAC > WAV > SHN; with patches Master Audience Cassette > ? > Cassette > CD; Upgrade to existing SHN copy


Reviewer: Pig's Pal - - February 3, 2015
Subject: Pitch
Mike Lai's version sounds much better, but is a few cents sharp in my opinion. Just enough to bug me. Break out the pitch corrector.
Thanks Archive
Reviewer: Deadahead Fasso - - November 6, 2013
Subject: really groves
Remarkable show!!
One of the finest yrs for the boys.. Jerry is really hot this day and you can definitely tell Keith is finding his way.
Something happens when Keith and Jerry get in that zone and this show is one of the best examples of that.
Reviewer: barreramusic - - September 21, 2013
Subject: Top 50
(My mom's birthday on the year I was born--cool. The 1973/11/17 is great also).

Quickly, I'd like to give a hats off to this show as a whole before discussing briefly the main draws of the show (He's Gone through Brokedown Palace).

I must add, though, that there is static scattered here and there throughout the show (especially Tennessee Jed--that's too bad), not to mention a few splices (Jack Straw, TOO, and Uncle are those I noticed).

Bird Song is great, to mention the highlight of the 1st set. Bird Song is always a treat, but this one is a little greater than usual.

He's Gone no doubt deserves its recognition. Wow! It is completely smoking hot and in it is such a sweet jam that builds and builds. It is definitely a best version in my listening experience. This is the highlight of the 2nd set (for me). I might consider saying that TOO is the highlight, but there was need for an aud patch in TOO. He's Gone is still in one perfect and beautiful peace.

Very intense jam sequence: Truckin'>TOO. It is too bad that a few seconds of the SB is missing in the midst of such great jamming during TOO. Oh well, thanks for the aud patch! As already stated, TOO jams! Check it out.

Also, the jam segment seems to begin with Truckin', not with He's Gone.

Between TOO and Brokedown: I was wondering, though--there is quite an abrupt shift between TOO and Brokedown (was there really a segue as at least one of the available copies shows?). Listening--Is that how it went, or is there a splice in the source? I'm probably going to edit it for my purposes so that it is not so jarring and since I doubt it really went down that way...Whatever.

Ouch!--the splice in Uncle :(

Don't let these minor complaints fool you. This show is off the hook, and the quality is excellent, considering it is from 1972. This is definitely a new favorite. It's in my top ummm not sure yet, but if I actually get time to sit down like some of you do to decide on a top 10 or 25 or 100, this could be in my top 10, but that is redundant. There're 50+ shows that could be in my top 10! However you slice it, this is a must have show, a must hear again and again and again and (not fade away)...
Reviewer: Dylan M - - June 29, 2013
Subject: Gorgeous Overlooked Show
Keith, Jerry, Phil, Bobby, Billy. At their best.

Listen to the He's Gone->Truckin'-> Other One

Especially the Other One gets as thematic, intense, and exploratory as they ever got. As tight as they ever were. Other One themes are totally worked out and what they began to develop during the Europe 72' tour fruited well during the Fall and Winter shows.

Love this second set. What a gem.
Reviewer: smgarcia - - December 2, 2011
Subject: Holy The Other One!
The magic of 1972. So many wonderful The Other ones and Dark Stars. Everyone routinely cites 9/17/72 as the premier The Other One, perhaps in Dead History.

And it very well might be. But like U of M vs. Ohio State or Duke / North Carolina, the contest between this date's TOO and 9/17/72 TOO would be well fought to the end. And the one on this date just might be superior. It's 1/2 the length, and it EXPLODES with thunder, blasts off into outer space with a decibel > 150 db. It is off the charts. And it's completely freaked out!!

At the 7 minute mark Jerry turns on the "underwater" filter on his guitar and you feel like you're swimming 5 feet below the ocean water with innumerable number of penetrating rays of light penetrating illuminating your path.

Then one minute later Phil starts a new base riff / melody that takes you out of the TOO mind frame. Over the next 10 minutes that theme builds into a blazing, coordinated cacophony of swirling sounds with vertiginous ocular sensations of the pleasant type. It's as if the entire band bangs on their instruments yet still produces discernible music! The band members go nuts! They finally go into the TOO outer verse and then quickly and peacefully transition into a warm Brokedown Palace.

This is a not miss! A no-brainer Top 5 TOO, and probably my favorite of year!
Reviewer: wjbthe3 - - September 3, 2011
Subject: Cumberland Blues
If there's a better version of Cumberland Blues, I haven't heard it.
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - - August 26, 2010
Subject: TOO
this source may have NR but it has a patch for the cut in TOO, so i would still choose this copy instead.
Reviewer: kenny16 - - October 17, 2009
Subject: Birdsong is on fire
Duh. I'm sure this is no secret since it's probably a Dick's Picks cut by now. But wow. Wow.

Miss you Jerry.
Reviewer: unclemike - - April 10, 2009
Subject: what a trip
My first and only Dead show. This was a great one. All these years my only recollection of the show was El Paso and the tie-dyed covers on the speakers. Thanks for putting this up.
Reviewer: oldhead21470 - - August 30, 2008
Subject: wrkster is right!!
If you click on other copies there is no noise reduction applied to that source.

The sound is crisp and clear. You get an amazing opportunity to hear just how unbelievable the band members complement each other. You also hear what makes Weir the most original rhythm guitarist of all time.
Reviewer: wrkster - - August 4, 2008
Subject: other source has no noise reduction
see title.
Reviewer: deadintheusa - - May 23, 2006
Subject: Jack Straw from Witchita
The only ever Jack Straw in Witchita, too bad it has a gap. Wish I could hear an AUD for the crowds reaction to that line. Great show nonetheless, only 4 stars though for the NR muddle. Would be cool if we could rate sound quality and show quality; Then I would give 3/5 respectively, for a SBD.
Reviewer: Susep - - November 19, 2005
Subject: Miles Smiles
It sounds like Miles Davis Footprints bass line Phil used a lot on this tour.
Reviewer: birdsgosouth - - September 18, 2005
Subject: Caught on a limb
This is definitely one of the most incredible versions of He's Gone ever played. This is an awesome show! Jerry plays with total ferocity. Certainly a hugely overlooked gem.
Reviewer: Jim F - - July 11, 2005
Subject: I love this one too.
Heed advice by all, this is a good one. The He's Gone>Truckin>Other One is up there with the best of the year, not a note wasted indeed. And you gotta love the rare Brokedown in it's special positioning, reminds me of the Attics from 9/27. Last I listened to it was on it's anniversary this past november, and I forgot how good it was, I still remember loving every note 8 months later. i think I'll go pull this one out...
Reviewer: dr. flashback - - July 11, 2005
Subject: don't miss this!
I have had this show on tape for years, and often referred to it as "the greatest little 72 show" in my collection. Little in stature only because, well, it's a bit short by 72 standards. And it can't really top many of the earlier stupendous shows in Sept 72, or even the great 2 night stand at the Fox in St. Louis a month before.
But this show is too easily overlooked, a mistake because it contains some very focused and magical playing that keeps on getting better every time I hear this show.
The first set highlights are the hot China>Rider and the 2 rarities - Bird Song which had just been pulled from retirement since 8/71, and the new song Box of Rain which premiered in Oct 72.
Set Two starts with a HOT version of Cumberland, which is usually a signal that Jerry is at the helm and
ready to blast off. A very nice He's Gone soon follows, with tasty ensemble playing between Jerry, Keith and Phil. But The Other One is really special indeed, it may be my favorite of the fall tour until
12/31/72. Only 20 minutes, but not a note wasted, with plenty of textures and colors to bend your mind and get you kind! The sweet Uncle John's is icing on
the cake. Worth adding to your collection!
Dr. Flashback :-)
Reviewer: skb archives - - July 10, 2005
Subject: Noise Reduction
Someone ruined this recording by adding noise reduction. The old version sounded better.
Reviewer: michaelshane - - July 10, 2005
Subject: New to this
I am not a deadhead.This being the one and only Dead concert I ever saw limits my opinion somewhat,I guess. But it was a glorious concert and time. I had just turned 18. Century II had a large open area in front of the stage and the practice then was to sit cross-legged on the floor til the music started, then get up jump around and dance. Saw most of this with Roger Wickman, Rick Swank, Dan Keleher, Cleo Sebring, and Steve Jackman, as I recall. Never heard any of these songs before except Casey Jones and Johnny B Goode. I remember the sound system seemed to reach to the ceiling, all covered in tie-dyed drapes. We were all flower children then, or thought we were, I guess. What a night. Guitar chords just floating around in the air. Never heard anything like it. Ethereal.
Reviewer: capn doubledose - - July 1, 2005
Subject: Other One or say hello to my little friend the wawa
Truckin>Other One is the real reason to get this and agree with Dick... There is some sizzling other-worldly jamming and ample use of the wawa between Bobby and Jerry - This definately stands alone in the post Europe tour, I should say this and Waterbury, CT Palace Theatre that is also a whopper. Cumberland, He's gone, Bird Song all very nice, but buckle up for the fat Other One here.

As an aside, this is as unlikely a place for them to pull this out as Brussels... Wichita has zero psychedelic energy and this one just cranks out the spacy harmonics - listen closely there is alot of stuff in there it starts slowly but rest assured there is plenty of jamming 22+ mins. Lastly, when was the last time you heard a wawa on brokedown? it's here - the finish with a top 5 ROCKING sugar mag. Even without Pig this is off the charts.
Reviewer: nickJ - - February 28, 2005
Subject: wow
Some really beautiful, dreamy, and jazzy work in this Other One; it sounds like Keith is messing with a bit of the jazz standard Round Midnight about 11 minutes in. Be warned there's a pretty murky aud patch that lasts about 30 seconds near the end. That Brokedown is so smooth, too. Recommended.
Reviewer: bruceberry - - December 1, 2004
Subject: Bird Song
This is a great, great show... here's what Dick Latvala had to say about it.

In Wichita (11/17), one of the best shows, of this period occurred. Garcia is playing with gusto and originality thru-out the show. :"Bird Song" and "Sugar Magnolia" are the highpoints outside of the real goods delivered in the jam: "Truckin->jam->The Other One->jam->The Other One->Brokedown Palace". (the "jam" segments contain lengthy and very unique playing.)

I should also add that the Cumberland smokes and the sound quality is very good to my ears.

I friend of mine attended this show and as a tour veteran, ranks it as the best he's ever seen. There were only about 500 people in attendance and the scene was very cool because it started to snow as they waited outside the venue. Later after the show the Dead showed up at the rotating bar at the top of the hotel across the street for a few drinks. Wish I was there.
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